Santa and God – the evidence is pretty clear…who do YOU believe in?
Question by DVO: Santa and God – the evidence is pretty clear…who do YOU believe in?
Most kids stop believing in Santa when they are between 6 and 10 years old, yet there is lots of evidence that Santa exists, there are lots of pictures, he has lots of people who represent him dressed as him, you can go and visit him in Lapland, Reindeers are real, most homes wake on a christmas morning with evidence of his visit (apart from those on Merseyside that were cleared out by burglars).
Yet we dismiss Santa at a very early age.
But…God has none of these things in his favour, all we have is an old book written 1000s of years ago, and yet people steadfastly believe.
Now I am clearly not saying I believe in Santa, but I am simply pointing out what many people will see as a logical link between the two beliefs, and how daft they both are.
Isn’t it time you god fearing folk all grew up and started to focus on more important things, imagine what we could acheive in the world if instead of raising funds for church matters, we raised funds to feed to poor? Get a grip.
Don, interesting, how come you managed not to crash the car during this amazing event?
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Answer by Don H
You sound a lot like I did till this happened to me.
Several years ago I had an unusual experience concerning an uncle, a distant relative who lived over a thousand miles away.
While driving my car I suddenly felt the unmistakable presence of this relative that I hardly even knew. He was more like someone I had heard about than someone I knew. It was very strange; it felt as though I was momentarily lifted right out of my physical body. I seemed to be suspended somehow beyond space and time, bathed in a love so intense It felt like I could have just disappear into it at any moment if It would have let me. It only lasted for a few seconds, but it seemed to last forever at the same time. I realize how crazy this must sound. The experience was so strong that at first I was afraid I was loosing my grip on reality. I finally managed to chalk it up to an over active imagination.
Three days later I got a call from my aunt telling me that this uncle we are talking about had gone into a coma and died the day I had the experience. It felt like ice water had been poured down my back when she told me this. I had lost any real ideas of God or faith and had become somewhat of an atheist. Needless to say this experience caused me to rethink some of the conclusions I had come to.
I feel blessed to now understand that even in our darkest confusion something loves us so much that it went out of its way to assist me and bring me back to a state of absolute certainty about Gods love for us.
During the experience it seemed like there was a vast amount of information that I was somehow allowed access to. One thing that I came away from this experience understanding beyond any shadow of a doubt was that any Idea that God is unhappy with us or would judge or allow us to be punished for any reason is simply impossible.
I can’t explain the love I felt with words. They simply don’t make words big enough or complete enough to do this. The only way I can begin to convey this love to you is to say that there was simply nothing else there. Nothing but love. No hint of judgment, no displeasure of any sort. It is as though God sees us as being as perfect as we were the day we were created. It is only in our confused idea of ourselves that we seem to have changed.
I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck. Love and blessings.
Your brother don
What do you think? Answer below!
Are you telling me.. that santa.. does not exist? *sniff* *sniff*
Am happy you know the difference…believe me you do.
Yes, and science even tells us how the presents got under the Christmas tree…
there is one thing the Santa experience does not have: the unseen, unexplained in human words spirit of God working in and moving through the hearts and souls of human beings.
It doesn’t come from a book and it doesn’t come from going to church or any of that.
Are you I……?Santa Claus was made by man while God exist without beginning and no ending.
The story about Santa is just an story for the low mental class person specially for the kids during the christmas day of the catholics. As if you are on that class of mentality if you believe it from some people yet you do not believe God and the bible. What kind of person do you belong. You have a very narrow mind . widen it.
jtm
The Santa myth is easy to dismiss as it is far less credible as the God myth, so most people dismiss the Santa fiction at a very early age, but most people, who were raised to believe in the God myth, do not seem to be able to dismiss that myth so easily, and adhere to that all their life.
Good point about how much money could be spent on other things besides the church. To play devil’s advocate (no pun intended), I think a lot of people would argue that the money put into the church helps to create more moral and giving people, which in turn is doing more good for the communities.
I think people believe in God for a variety of reasons. One of them is that some people need a God figure in their life to be hopeful about the future. Some people would live a pretty bleak existence knowing that there is not an afterlife or an all-powerful being who can make things right. I myself feel that thinking that there is no afterlife make a person celebrate each day because that is all they are guaranteed. I think that this can lead to a more satisfying life.
I think a lot of people also believe in God because they must feel like they can right their own wrongs through prayer and his forgiveness (So I do cocaine and I cheat on my girlfriend, but I have been going to church since I was born so it is okay).
I know I am making huge generalizations about those who believe in God, but my experiences have led me to encounter many of these types.
How do I know you exist? Someone could be posing as you. I don’t believe you. Prove to me that you really exist.
There’s much more than a book to support God exists. The whole creation around us and the impossibility of it. The fact that humans even have a desire to have a God at all, and tend to have a moral code of right and wrong inside themselves. Where would that have come from if we evolved from nothing and why, if it wasn’t proof of God? What about all the supernatural experiences (angelic intervention, demonic activity, talking to the dead, etc.) over our past history that show there is more than this physical existence? To me, those prove there is a God, apart from the fact of the Bible.
Santa always sounded like a nicer guy to me.
>Isn’t it time you god fearing folk all grew up <
Well, I’m 37 and I’ve grown up – I am also a Christian and I see the world for what it really is – fading and full of lies and deceit! If anybody has to grow up it’s non Christians who think everything is OK in the world – they live in cloud cuckoo land not Christians!
As for raising funds for churches – you obviously haven’t heard of TEARFUND! They have been going for over 30 years and they had FAIRTRADE then! They have helped the poor for a lot longer than Tescos, Sainsburys etc (who have only just started selling fairtrade goods). TEARFUND gives far more money to poor people than any of these huge supermarkets do!
Do your research before using dumb sweeping statements – and you say it’s people who believe in God who need to grow up…
” There is lots of evidence that Santa exist” Well, in that case you could say Spongebob Squarepants exist. There are lots of pictures, there are people that dress like him, and I think you can even go “visit” him at his home at nickelodeon studios. Shoot, he even stars in his own show and is a supporter of such fine eateries like the Burger King. I think he is best friends with the “King.” But, Santa didn’t die for my sins and when I die I am not going to go live with Santa in the North Pole. Spongebob Squarepants hasn’t died for anyone’s sins, when I die I am not going to go live with him forever on the bottom of the ocean. I have never had a spiritual experience involving Santa and Spongebob. Jesus DID die for my sins and rose again 3 days later and I have experienced the Holy Spirit. So you see, there is a big difference.
How do you know what the church does with their money? I happen to know for a fact that my church gave over 200,000 dollars overseas last year for hunger and I know that they gave countless dollars away to other missions around the world. The church does plenty good.
Santa is dismissed because moms & dads finally confess that they are really “Santa”. No one who started out believing in Santa just stopped believing for no reason.
I can appreciate what you said about the money/church/feed the poor thing…I totally agree. When churches stop building themselves up as “fortresses”, then the real work of the church can begin: Feed the poor, educate the ignorant, clothe those in need and love everyone unconditionally.
I also think that you are misusing this forum to denegrate and brow beat people of faith. You should find another forum for doing this. This page should be used for people who seek real answers, not people who write down hurtful things and get some sort of thrill from it.
I really think you are searching for answers or you wouldn’t take the time to do this…just come clean and be serious about it.
Peace.
You are rude and inconsidering to pther people, leave us alone. We knows what we knows and some of us have evidence of the work of god.
You are so right, but is easier to believe in Santa and learn that he does not exist than find out that God does not exist.But we just cannot believe God to do everything.It´s the human raise who has to do good things for other people who need help more than we do and by doing so we come nearer God, of course only if you believe in Him.